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what impacted this or these experiences

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have on you and on your family well the

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children were grown and gone that time

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if you're talking about

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they made office manager have affected

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baker because i work early in late how

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would you compare race relations in

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memphis then and now what has changed in

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what has none

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I really i guess that African Americans

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are more accepted on every level than

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they were then but there's a lot that

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hasn't changed

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is there any advice that you want

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younger Memphians to know if so what

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would you tell them I would tell them to

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study hard while they're in school try

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to get as good a job as possible work

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hard and not to discriminate because

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anyone was a different color or race or

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sex or sex yes females are discriminated

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against are you still involved at this

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church at all how so you were very

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involved we attend Sunday school and

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church of course I teach part-time in an

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adult sunday school class we both work

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in the food pantry every Monday

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Becker's a trustee I'm assistant

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treasurer I try to keep the house and

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grounds going and i'm a member of you

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know excuse me i'm a member of United

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Methodist Women service their Treasury

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if you could go back in time whatever

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ice would you give yourself oh no I'm

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pretty happy with my life I'm saying

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here

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what are some of the main ways you've

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seen the community change well the good

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stores have moved out we had Fisher

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stores restaurants beauty shops

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furniture stores everything right here

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and too much has moved way out Fortner

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furniture company which was a wonderful

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furniture store gone

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we had two banks in the area no banks

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now the area has changed a whole lot why

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do you think these companies moved well

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all of the fourtner brothers died is

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what happened to the furniture store

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I can't really say we had an amv grocery

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across the street I don't know why they

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closed it

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we had shoe stores barbershops beauty

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shops the people who operated the beauty

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shops are dead but I don't know why no

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one else picked it up what kinds of

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entertainment do you enjoy theatre

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Memphis

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or one looks good we are not sports fans

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can you describe some of the white

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flight that happened here where do

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people go um

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no I don't guess I can when they started

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integration and people started putting

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their children in private schools they

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didn't leave the community they just put

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them in private schools and then we no

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longer had the court group here they

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wanted to go where their friends were

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going and they change churches but not

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they didn't move

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the the people that lived here when we

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left here are mostly dead did

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segregation or integration shape your

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experience at work no well no not really

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well you what were your opinions on the

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education at highland heights you mean

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here at the church at how nice or do you

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minute travel and truly what we felt

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like our kids got a good education and

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traveling course at that time we knew

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many of the teachers and they were good

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teachers

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had a principle to that people looked up

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to but when he said Jeff they jumped mr.

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Maybury if it is different now why do

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you think so discipline do you believe

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the flight contributed to the downfall

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of Highland Heights the Alan Hinds

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Community are the Highland Heights

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church community I would say yes

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how well if the people have been living

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here all of the time and everybody

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starts moving it's just naturally going

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to change and much of the property

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became real property as opposed to

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people owning it which meant that there

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was more moving around more people

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changed I mean when we lived here the

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same people that bought their house is

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when we did live there you know in other

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words nobody moved in and out and after

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its rental property people move more

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often and they don't get to know people

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as well

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have you participated in any community

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service lately and we're here the Philip

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entry what do you remember about hearing

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or witnessing during the civil rights

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movement

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well I remember the time that a young

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lady was visiting here from American

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University in Washington which is where

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our son was going to school and a young

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african-american guy came with her to

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church and that was not the norm and our

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son got up and left where he was sitting

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with us and went and SAT with them as a

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statement that he was welcome and you

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know we didn't have any great big

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division or trouble because of it just

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the private schools is the thing that

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do you think a deeper Rudy community

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will help a deeper rooted I don't quite

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understand the question I know do you

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think a deeper rooted community will

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help oh I understood what you say it I

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don't understand the meaning of the

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question

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you know

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like if more people stay here would it

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help right people living here

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permanently

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you know I don't know how many people

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live here permanently i don't know i'm

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really not qualified to answer about

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this community we've been down too long

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I don't know the people who live here I

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don't know what race they are I don't

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know

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is there anything you would like to add

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on that we haven't covered I would like

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to say this church is full of young

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people as it was many years ago

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and I don't know how to accomplish that

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but if anyone does I'd like to see it

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happen

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would you take time to get to know

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Highland Heights again would I take time

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to get to know Helen Hunt's again well

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what you mean well here's the question I

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don't know either

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we spend an awful lot of time here at

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this location in our nights and we meet

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the people who come here to get food on

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Monday and there are a lot of them I

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think it was 36 families we serve this

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past Monday and it will be more the last

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Monday and we do get to know them we

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have free meals here they eat a free

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meal every Monday anybody that comes in

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we have a contemporary service early on

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Sunday morning that we had hoped would

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Minister to more people in the community

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than it is

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I think we are making the reaching out

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effort but we can't force people when

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did you get involved with this church is

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it October of 19 15 10 October 1951

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could you tell us a story of a family

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you met at the free dinners on Monday

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well there was the lady this week who

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had to be getting food for her sister

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because her sister was not able to come

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we normally have to have adults

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registered but we took care of that

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there are certain restrictions that the

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food bank puts on the food that they

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supply so we have extra food when people

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do not qualify and I met a man this week

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who was not happy with what he got and

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dealing with him was a challenge most of

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the people are very grateful we have I

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talked to a person who lived on Maria

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just one day last week don't ask me to

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remember her name because my memory is

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not that good

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but she had two little children invited

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her to church one of the ladies who

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works in their invites everyone who

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comes to be sure and stay for the lunch

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even though most of them already didn't

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know about it when Lady this week had a

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precious little two-year-old and toe

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with her and we tried to get some

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special stuff together that she could

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eat now as far as knowing them outside

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the context of the food pantry if that's

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what he wants to know I do not well

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except for two of them to that I did

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that's not true there three do young

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people at the church make a difference

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in your opinion no because we don't have

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but three young people if you could

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change anything about this neighborhood

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what would it be that we would have more

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people go to this church or to the

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baptist church or to the new tyler AME

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that we would have more people in the

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neighborhood involved in studying about

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Jesus Christ

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thank you for sharing your story is

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participation you're well