1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,790 today's oral history interview is part 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,280 of a project organized by chick history 3 00:00:05,790 --> 00:00:11,219 in partnership with humanities Tennessee 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,980 I am fami Ajanaku a member of the 5 00:00:11,219 --> 00:00:15,509 Memphis area branch association for the 6 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:18,330 study of african-american life in 7 00:00:15,509 --> 00:00:21,869 history with assistance from our host 8 00:00:18,330 --> 00:00:24,750 site the Civil Rights Museum Rose 9 00:00:21,869 --> 00:00:26,550 College lemoyne-owen College and the 10 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:30,449 University of Memphis 11 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:34,110 I'm also interviewing miss Barry 12 00:00:30,449 --> 00:00:37,050 Mitchell who is actually going to give 13 00:00:34,110 --> 00:00:38,160 us more information this morning about 14 00:00:37,050 --> 00:00:41,910 her great-aunt 15 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:45,539 Maggie white and her grandmother Mary 16 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:49,230 Adams Jones so I'd like to thank you 17 00:00:45,539 --> 00:00:50,879 very much for talking to us again miss 18 00:00:49,230 --> 00:00:54,750 Mitchell could you tell us something 19 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:57,840 more about your grandmother and give us 20 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:59,670 her name again okay and thank you dr. 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:04,760 John Akoo it's my pleasure 22 00:00:59,670 --> 00:01:07,860 my grandmother was Mary Adams Jones and 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:11,070 she was born in South Carolina 24 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:15,210 I think mid South Carolina a father she 25 00:01:11,070 --> 00:01:19,560 was born to slaves and her father and 26 00:01:15,210 --> 00:01:22,830 his brothers the family oral history is 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:27,320 that they stole a horse and they wrote 28 00:01:22,830 --> 00:01:30,780 it to Tennessee two of her father's own 29 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:33,290 brothers and then the family the Adams 30 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:39,509 family moved from the Adams slave 31 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:41,970 plantation to Tennessee and Maggie Adams 32 00:01:39,509 --> 00:01:44,460 white is her sister I think her baby 33 00:01:41,970 --> 00:01:47,369 sister because she will always call my 34 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:49,380 grandmother babe she was maybe it was 35 00:01:47,369 --> 00:01:52,530 the youngest and they moved to Tennessee 36 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:54,930 and they sell in Shelby County around 37 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:55,680 the Collierville area and they were one 38 00:01:54,930 --> 00:02:01,350 of the phone 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:04,740 members of oh st. James AME Church in 40 00:02:01,350 --> 00:02:07,560 Collierville and most of them resided 41 00:02:04,740 --> 00:02:09,810 there until my grandparents moved to 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,260 Memphis in the historic orange mound 43 00:02:09,810 --> 00:02:16,650 community where I was born in 1936 and 44 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:20,070 others migrated north like sister Meg 45 00:02:16,650 --> 00:02:22,740 she lived in st. Louis R for years and 46 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:25,200 years which until she became elderly and 47 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:28,290 ill and had to come back home her other 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:31,860 siblings moved to Chicago and to Canton 49 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:37,560 Ohio so can you tell us the reason for 50 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:44,010 them living well one of the things 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:46,920 probably just be some the work for work 52 00:02:44,010 --> 00:02:48,060 at the particular time part of well it 53 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:50,340 could have been a little bit earlier 54 00:02:48,060 --> 00:02:53,610 than the uh northern migration for them 55 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:56,310 but I'm sure it had a lot to do we work 56 00:02:53,610 --> 00:02:59,130 and the room in my family is that one of 57 00:02:56,310 --> 00:03:01,680 my grandmother sisters we call her a 58 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:04,489 sister Mandy the one who moved to Canton 59 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:07,830 Ohio they had moved end up didn't 60 00:03:04,489 --> 00:03:11,400 Arkansas for a while and so this aunt 61 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:14,459 she was attacked or insulted our white 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:17,340 man and she cut his throat and they had 63 00:03:14,459 --> 00:03:19,620 to get her out and a wagon in the middle 64 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:22,530 of the night and of course she ended up 65 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:24,540 in Canton Ohio where she did develop a 66 00:03:22,530 --> 00:03:26,910 business and would all they come back 67 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:29,489 home to visit when I was a little girl 68 00:03:26,910 --> 00:03:32,519 but this particular incident that I'm 69 00:03:29,489 --> 00:03:34,650 sharing occurred before I was born I'm 70 00:03:32,519 --> 00:03:38,970 sure 71 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:41,549 and you've mentioned Maggie white well 72 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:44,069 my Aunt Maggie white was just so 73 00:03:41,549 --> 00:03:46,739 phenomenal character her own my 74 00:03:44,069 --> 00:03:47,340 grandmother's sister she lived in st. 75 00:03:46,739 --> 00:03:49,920 Louis 76 00:03:47,340 --> 00:03:53,819 she lived Oh quitea for years she was 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:59,010 very very active in everything political 78 00:03:53,819 --> 00:04:02,730 uh she liked to talk about the fact that 79 00:03:59,010 --> 00:04:06,840 she could pick up the phone and call 80 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:09,450 I think the first black of congressman 81 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,940 from the st. Louis area she was very 82 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:14,190 active in the CM e Church all of her 83 00:04:11,940 --> 00:04:16,850 books and write and she did it gave them 84 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:20,280 to lay in college she was a millinery 85 00:04:16,850 --> 00:04:22,620 she made had she was a really more than 86 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:24,810 just a centrist she could design pose 87 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:27,840 she worked for the st. Louis Park 88 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:31,620 Commission she was always getting 89 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:34,740 petition she was quite quite politically 90 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:37,530 active and uh she was a Republican one 91 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:41,010 of the things I can remember she died in 92 00:04:37,530 --> 00:04:43,169 1980 probably about oh she was probably 93 00:04:41,010 --> 00:04:44,669 about 98 because she had moved back home 94 00:04:43,169 --> 00:04:46,919 an elder and then was staying with us 95 00:04:44,669 --> 00:04:49,470 and she would always say what this kind 96 00:04:46,919 --> 00:04:51,810 of hippie boys I'm a Republican and I'll 97 00:04:49,470 --> 00:04:55,169 be Republic wouldn't until I died and 98 00:04:51,810 --> 00:04:59,220 that was her dedication to Abraham 99 00:04:55,169 --> 00:05:01,979 Lincoln and all that was gained in her 100 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:05,090 era for african-americans in the 101 00:05:01,979 --> 00:05:05,090 Republican Party 102 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:11,580 I have pictures of her but I couldn't 103 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,980 find the one picture that I promised but 104 00:05:11,580 --> 00:05:16,440 I did bring a picture of her a group 105 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:22,710 picture of her where she was attended 106 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:25,230 the 1955 in a ACP conference in Atlanta 107 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:29,450 is a big group picture but she was 108 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:32,040 everything in an ACP everything but 109 00:05:29,450 --> 00:05:34,860 african-americans being great everything 110 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:39,260 she always made sure that we were aware 111 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:42,240 of our royalty regardless of what the 112 00:05:39,260 --> 00:05:45,470 Society of her times as well as my times 113 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:48,000 would say about us she always made sure 114 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:51,330 that we would bear much aware of our 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,920 royalty and I can remember her my dad 116 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:54,510 was heard near for you and I can 117 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,480 remember her coming down when I was a 118 00:05:54,510 --> 00:05:59,220 little girl and my dad would never be 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,480 walking around kind of like you know 120 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:04,080 just relax 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:06,270 oh yeah head up you are a child of a 122 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,860 king and she would say that to my grown 123 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:13,710 daddy so she was quite a great person 124 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:18,600 she was one of the founders also in st. 125 00:06:13,710 --> 00:06:20,040 Louis I think of Murchison CMA Church it 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,090 was a sima church up there 127 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:27,050 she was very politically civically 128 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:27,050 activist in everything 129 00:06:27,230 --> 00:06:33,920 you mentioned some of the things she 130 00:06:32,030 --> 00:06:36,740 said and about her being a Republican 131 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:40,190 were there any other terms that she used 132 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:42,280 about african-american progress or 133 00:06:40,190 --> 00:06:45,260 african-american activism 134 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:48,560 well I can't necessarily think of it a 135 00:06:45,260 --> 00:06:51,530 term per se at this time that she used 136 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:55,010 what I could say for sure that she was 137 00:06:51,530 --> 00:06:57,350 very very much of the mentor the 138 00:06:55,010 --> 00:07:00,020 inspiration to anybody who was of 139 00:06:57,350 --> 00:07:03,110 african-american descent to remember 140 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:05,870 that the passage of the mill passage 141 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:08,390 voyage that brought us over here was not 142 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:11,330 a cruise ship that we signed up to be 143 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:13,490 passengers for and I would also remember 144 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:16,790 understand any person who looked like us 145 00:07:13,490 --> 00:07:19,490 the Diaspora of African Americans across 146 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:22,370 the world that survived the mill passing 147 00:07:19,490 --> 00:07:24,130 voyage we agree I can remember her 148 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:26,600 always saying how great we are 149 00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:28,430 regardless if somebody was walking down 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,590 the street and maybe intoxicated to 151 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:33,740 somewhere she was that oh he doesn't 152 00:07:30,590 --> 00:07:37,090 know his Rorty because if he knew and he 153 00:07:33,740 --> 00:07:37,090 would be acting like that