1 00:00:00,510 --> 00:00:07,319 so I'm Katherine Lambert Kennington and 2 00:00:03,149 --> 00:00:11,519 I was part of the original group I guess 3 00:00:07,319 --> 00:00:14,070 the old-timers that conceived of 4 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:17,699 crossroads and began the planet and 5 00:00:14,070 --> 00:00:21,170 think about how we would do this and how 6 00:00:17,699 --> 00:00:23,640 both in terms of methods and in terms of 7 00:00:21,170 --> 00:00:28,039 cataloging and how it might be used and 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:32,070 who would work on it and the purpose 9 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:37,230 well I was just retiring from the 10 00:00:32,070 --> 00:00:39,450 classroom you know 5:06 stirring my 11 00:00:37,230 --> 00:00:42,360 memory around about this I think I have 12 00:00:39,450 --> 00:00:46,399 rust Wigington to blame for getting me 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:49,860 involved in this just before I retired 14 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:52,079 and then after I retired lingering 15 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:57,500 around to work with students on the 16 00:00:52,079 --> 00:01:00,300 interviews that was all starting 506 17 00:00:57,500 --> 00:01:02,969 well I had been I was finishing up my 18 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:04,439 PhD in anthropology and had just I think 19 00:01:02,969 --> 00:01:10,580 finished my dissertation and maybe 20 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:13,049 graduated so then that was 2005 and 21 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:15,090 since I had a lot of experience doing 22 00:01:13,049 --> 00:01:16,740 interviews with people as an 23 00:01:15,090 --> 00:01:18,720 anthropologist you do tons of interviews 24 00:01:16,740 --> 00:01:20,880 and I grew up here in Memphis was very 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:25,799 invested and interested in Memphis 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:28,470 history and civil rights and got pulled 27 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:30,810 into this because I was around and had a 28 00:01:28,470 --> 00:01:33,780 skillset that was useful and was looking 29 00:01:30,810 --> 00:01:35,700 for something worthwhile to do and she 30 00:01:33,780 --> 00:01:39,210 knew a lot more about Memphis than I did 31 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:41,670 I teach 20th century intellectual 32 00:01:39,210 --> 00:01:43,350 history had never done any local history 33 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:45,630 had not done an african-american history 34 00:01:43,350 --> 00:01:48,689 really other than teaching classes on 35 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:51,299 the civil rights movement but it was a 36 00:01:48,689 --> 00:01:53,159 learning experience for me to dig deeper 37 00:01:51,299 --> 00:01:56,240 into Memphis history and to work with 38 00:01:53,159 --> 00:02:00,159 students on these projects and Katherine 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:05,159 knew the city knew the literature about 40 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:08,019 really well it was fun yeah we went to 41 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:10,750 go to Richmond Virginia to look at the 42 00:02:08,019 --> 00:02:13,480 shoot Charlotte's the famous or infamous 43 00:02:10,750 --> 00:02:17,459 yes infamous Charlottesville it was a 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:20,739 beautiful weekend up there and which 45 00:02:17,459 --> 00:02:23,920 really well-known historian it airs at 46 00:02:20,739 --> 00:02:27,640 the University of Virginia introduced us 47 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:30,250 to his work and to the technical crowd 48 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:33,579 we took our tech people from here Stacy 49 00:02:30,250 --> 00:02:36,130 Pennington and then others and we 50 00:02:33,579 --> 00:02:38,829 learned a lot from them as we started 51 00:02:36,130 --> 00:02:40,569 thinking about building a website it's 52 00:02:38,829 --> 00:02:44,290 interesting to think about crossroads 53 00:02:40,569 --> 00:02:47,590 now because technology has changed so 54 00:02:44,290 --> 00:02:50,560 much in the last 10 years when we 55 00:02:47,590 --> 00:02:52,900 started this project there was the 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,200 YouTube and the idea of posting videos 57 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:58,450 online was out there but it wasn't that 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,260 there was not the kind of use that you 59 00:02:58,450 --> 00:03:05,139 see today the sort of smaller very 60 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:06,389 powerful cameras were just coming on the 61 00:03:05,139 --> 00:03:10,120 market they were still pretty expensive 62 00:03:06,389 --> 00:03:13,000 your camera didn't do video like audio 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,859 quality was much more difficult so the 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,910 way in which if we were doing this again 65 00:03:14,859 --> 00:03:17,739 today I think the way in which we 66 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:21,150 conceived it would be slightly different 67 00:03:17,739 --> 00:03:24,100 because technology offers so much more 68 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:27,000 so many more options and I think some of 69 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:29,349 the students who've worked on this both 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,299 the road students as well as some of the 71 00:03:29,349 --> 00:03:34,690 high school students really speak to 72 00:03:31,299 --> 00:03:36,519 that that it's become technology has 73 00:03:34,690 --> 00:03:39,340 democratized the ability to participate 74 00:03:36,519 --> 00:03:41,079 in archiving type activities which is 75 00:03:39,340 --> 00:03:43,359 pretty interesting we couldn't have 76 00:03:41,079 --> 00:03:45,370 imagined that we'd hoped I think we had 77 00:03:43,359 --> 00:03:46,720 the hope that that was one of the things 78 00:03:45,370 --> 00:03:49,090 that would happen as a result the 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,280 crossroads but you know technology made 80 00:03:49,090 --> 00:03:52,989 it possible in a way that I don't think 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,280 we could have predicted really or at 82 00:03:52,989 --> 00:03:55,930 least we weren't thinking about maybe we 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,889 could have predicted it but we hadn't 84 00:03:55,930 --> 00:04:01,720 even considered it absolutely yeah and I 85 00:03:59,889 --> 00:04:03,390 think I'm most like 86 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,610 working with the students in crossroads 87 00:04:03,390 --> 00:04:08,650 because I no longer had two great papers 88 00:04:06,610 --> 00:04:10,390 I didn't have to evaluate everything 89 00:04:08,650 --> 00:04:12,130 that they were working in the summer 90 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:16,209 they had grants to work they were 91 00:04:12,130 --> 00:04:20,829 motivated we we had lots of fun sharing 92 00:04:16,209 --> 00:04:22,300 ideas learning for some of them about 93 00:04:20,829 --> 00:04:25,210 Memphis and about the civil rights 94 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:27,220 movement but it was great to be with 95 00:04:25,210 --> 00:04:32,770 students and sharing ideas and out of 96 00:04:27,220 --> 00:04:36,870 the classroom summers were fun and very 97 00:04:32,770 --> 00:04:36,870 intense very intense very intense 98 00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:44,400 students did a lot of a lot of good work 99 00:04:39,550 --> 00:04:44,400 did a lot of writing and interviewing 100 00:04:44,430 --> 00:04:50,380 can tell me one specific story from each 101 00:04:48,100 --> 00:05:06,370 of you about a time at crossroads that 102 00:04:50,380 --> 00:05:08,919 really impacted you in any way there are 103 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:12,840 a lot of little ones the details of 104 00:05:08,919 --> 00:05:16,990 which are difficult to come up with I 105 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:20,500 remember we went to interview an older 106 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:30,490 black woman in her home whom we thought 107 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:34,150 had been working at at the motel where 108 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:35,800 dr. King was killed or in a nearby 109 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:39,400 cafeteria there 110 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,020 I think was at the Lorraine and it turns 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,289 out that wasn't quite the case she 112 00:05:41,020 --> 00:05:46,120 wasn't at work that day but she had such 113 00:05:44,289 --> 00:05:49,180 interesting experience because she lived 114 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,789 in the neighborhood and was not herself 115 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:58,780 involved in the movement but in terms of 116 00:05:51,789 --> 00:06:08,139 what she saw and understood that story 117 00:05:58,780 --> 00:06:13,060 so closer so for me one of the things 118 00:06:08,139 --> 00:06:15,780 that was I think and still is one of the 119 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:19,060 most valuable things that the archive 120 00:06:15,780 --> 00:06:23,740 that's been able to digitize a record 121 00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:25,300 and make usable is the newspapers so 122 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:29,259 much of that material has been 123 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:32,770 unavailable anywhere it had sort of been 124 00:06:29,259 --> 00:06:35,080 set aside and forgotten and so to me 125 00:06:32,770 --> 00:06:39,639 that was useful I still even today send 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:42,069 students to look at it because it this 127 00:06:39,639 --> 00:06:46,690 is the only place that you can get it so 128 00:06:42,069 --> 00:06:50,880 um I was very proud of when that ended 129 00:06:46,690 --> 00:06:50,880 up being digitized I'm gonna come on 130 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:55,770 thank you guys so yeah sure okay